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Self Timer

Robert Barr
suggested this on March 03, 2012 11:41 am

Hello Lytro,

It would be very nice if you could add a self timer function in the menu.  It would be nice to have a 5 second and 10 second delay choice.  There are some self portraits I would like to get but I can't post and still press the shutter. 

Thanks Again!

 

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John Spragens

Yes, for self-portraits. And I can think of a number of other situations where it would be good to have a self-timer, especially in low light when you want to keep the camera steady for what's likely to be a longer exposure.

March 04, 2012 11:09 pm
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Christian Skorik

A self-timer is definitely needed.  This is a simple software addition and I am certainly missing it.

March 07, 2012 12:20 pm
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Ankit Brahmbhatt

Hi guys - Thanks for the feedback! We are taking all feature requests into serious consideration, so knowing your desire for a self-timer is helpful to know.

March 20, 2012 09:14 am
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Gabriel Garcia

A self timer, a remote control, and a 1/4 inch fitting for a tripod would be really helpful.  I'd like to use it for family pictures, but sadly I still have to stick to my Nikon.

April 01, 2012 12:02 pm
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Greg Tokarski

And a tripod mount... if it had self timer and tripod mount you could do some nice night scenery shots.. well.. u'd need to allow for lower ISO manual selection as well as a longer exposure option... I know, it makes it more like a standard camera.., but it is a camera, so some of these options do seem like they should apply.

April 10, 2012 04:53 pm
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Stephen Inoue

Hi Ankit,

If the iOS app could sync to the Lytro to expose feature requests like remote trigger, countdown timer, image preview, big screen ipad image review, etc. I think you would have a very cool partnership and additional features without having to ruin the clean UI you have on the camera (one of the reasons why I hate all the menus and buttons on DSLRs and think those should be moved to the smart phone).

April 25, 2012 10:45 pm
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Dave Hudson
Just want to put more support behind this one! A timer is a must have - very disappointed it doesn't have this basic feature. Would be great to have a repeating timer as well - eg, keep taking pictures every X seconds until you press the shutter again. Would allow for some fun pics!
May 02, 2012 08:06 pm
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Michael Clarke

Ditto on the timer. 

May 05, 2012 01:45 pm
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Greg Tokarski

A timer, plus a number of shuts taken on timer (1, 5, 10?) would be even better. 

May 05, 2012 08:11 pm
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Campbell Macduff
Timer and tripod mount please.
May 20, 2012 02:25 am
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B Roberts

I second that: timer and tripod mount please.

June 07, 2012 01:43 am
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B Roberts

And full remote via USB please.

June 07, 2012 01:43 am
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Michael Clarke
Thanks for the tripod mount... It's nice how the mount tightens around the camera body as the tripod mounting bolt is turned into place. Unfortunately, the problem still remains that it is next to impossible to activate the shutter without causing camera shake. So much force is required to activate the shutter release button, relative to the very light weight camera body, that just pushing the shutter lease causes motion blur, even mounted to a tripod. The only way to solve this major design flaw is to deliver a software timer or USB connected software activated shutter release. I concur with others who have said that the design team for this camera prioritized looks over usability.
July 08, 2012 04:31 pm
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Greg Tokarski

Just an idea here - a long hold on the shutter could invoke a self-timer that could be setup somewhere in the "gear" menu maybe? I would totally go for a default setting of say a picture 10 minutes after releasing the button. maybe 3 images 5 seconds apart?

I am assuming that implementing a long press on the shutter should not be very hard to implement in a firmware update.. but heck.. some control on a touch screen would do too.. Now that you got a tripod mount, having a selftimer would be really a huge improvement! For future hardware releases, consider a tiny LED to illuminate while the "self timer" is ticking....

Self timer is really a must now, that the mount is available, come on guys! Happify us!

GT

August 29, 2012 09:07 am
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John Kuehn

Add my vote for a 'FULL' remote via USB. or as many remote features as you're willing to implemant.

Because if we don't ask, the features never will be considered.

First cut at a request list of candidate  features for remoting:

Shutter release

Mode selection

Focus

exposure

shutter duration

Live view

More to follow........

September 04, 2012 09:49 am
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John Kuehn

This probably should have been sent as it's own Support Ticket...

September 04, 2012 09:51 am
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Greg Tokarski

Looking at the possibilities now with manual mode - a self-times followed by  number of shots is a must. I have many ideas to try, but in general it is not feasible for me to release the shutter.. a 10-15 sec delay to follow by 5 pictures in say 5 sec intervals.. .that would allow for so much more, in combination with the current manual controls!  I would LOVE for that to become a priority! You guys already showed how well the the upgrading through firmware works - and works great! So please, get on the self timer! :)

October 13, 2012 08:36 pm
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Michael Gmirkin

Most cameras have some kind of a "timer" to allow the user to get into the shot? Wondering if it would be possible to add timer functionality to Lytro?

It's also handy for eliminating camera shake, especially when tripod mounted, by pressing the button and then removing the finger, allowing the camera to take an image while it's not otherwise moving.

Seems like it would be easy enough to add this kind of functionality? Maybe a couple presets? 2 seconds, 5 seconds, 10 seconds, 20-30 seconds (group shots, for getting everyone situated/posed). Wouldn't think one would need longer than 30 seconds. Granted, there's probably no indicator (light, speaker, etc.) to let you know the shot's been taken? Still, it could be useful...

November 11, 2012 03:54 pm
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Michael Gmirkin

Yes, combinable with bracketing, suggested elsewhere... Would also be helpful. I'm thining reducing camera shake and then maybe progressive metering for HDR applications? See thread on HDR for more on that.

November 11, 2012 03:55 pm
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Michael Gmirkin

*thinking

November 11, 2012 03:55 pm
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Michael Gmirkin

John Kuehn brings up a good point. IT would be cool if the mini-usb could be used for more than recharging, such as for some kind of either wired or wireless dongle solution with an external display for remote setup of an image and remote triggering of the shutter button (to minimize camera shake, etc.). That would be amazingly cool, and you'd undoubtedly get a bunch of sales of whatever accessory this ended up being... Maybe something with a slightly larger screen? Maybe even with an app for smart phone (iPhone, Android) remote control in addition to whatever touch device comes with it?

November 11, 2012 03:59 pm
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Mahesh Thapa

One more supporter for a timer function.

November 20, 2012 01:10 pm
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Reb Spence

Yeah, I am totally down for a timer as well.

November 28, 2012 07:02 pm
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Greg Tokarski

Mr. Gmirkin - would you please start a new thread with your idea so I can like them? Thank you ;)

November 29, 2012 03:19 pm
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Michael Gmirkin

@ Greg Tokarski:

Well, for HDR there was already this thread:

http://support.lytro.com/entries/20931722-will-the-lytro-have-hdr-c...

For bracketing I already created this thread (with reference back to the HDR thread):

http://support.lytro.com/entries/22421063-add-bracketing-support-th...

Think that's it for now? Maybe someone *should* create a thread for the notion of using the mini-USB for more than just charging. Such as for an external adapter allowing remote triggering, either via cable or via some wireless technology.

And for the notion of maybe including some kind of phone app for wirelessly triggering the shutter? Kind of like some Blu-Rays or new smart TVs let you use your phone as a remote control? I

hear the unit has a dormant wifi chip? But that's just a rumour? Would be cool if they could design some external touch-free, no-dongle-required wireless trigger / adjustment option, either via smart phone or via some external device you could buy to operate it remotely via WiFi of some form or function?

P.S. WRT one of my prior statements about speakers & self-timing: Err, and maybe there is a speaker onboard {?} to have some kind of 'camera click' sound to indicate when the timer goes off and a picture has been taken? Dunno. Will let Lytro answer that one... I forget off hand. If not, ohh well. Maybe on a future model.

Anyway, don't have time for thread creation ATM, but might take a look later if I remember. ^_^

November 29, 2012 04:29 pm
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Greg Tokarski

Hey Michael - I did mean it just about the USB ;) In general I believe Lytro looks at the "likes" in feature requests, to see which ones are the most liked and they may take the most liked up in the queue of improvements ;) I already created a thread for a usb based flash, but did not want to "steal" your idea ;) I can sure create a separate thread - just didn't want to "steal" your idea ;)

November 29, 2012 05:48 pm
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Greg Tokarski
November 29, 2012 08:41 pm
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Greg Tokarski

So, looks like we got ourselves a self timer! Could it be better? Yes. Is what we got better than not having it? Heck yes! ;)

December 04, 2012 12:46 pm
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Michael Gmirkin

So, what are the pros and cons of the new self-timer?

Pros: We get one.

Cons: ?

What could be improved? What's lacking? I haven't had a chance to update yet...

December 04, 2012 12:57 pm
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Greg Tokarski

Well :) Since you ask so bluntly: :)

Pros: 

 We got it

 2 sec for fast and 10 for longer time - nice options

Cons:

 Takes quite a few clicks to get there

 Does not take multiple pictures

 Does not have a custom option - initial delay, number of pics, delay between pics

 Does not stay on the screen to use again

December 04, 2012 01:21 pm
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Michael Gmirkin

Yeah, I can be blunt that way. ;) Hehe.

Just figured they can't improve it 'til we tell them what we do / don't like about it. ^_^

Well, okay, they could, but they might have to develop mind-reading powers. *Smile*

Hmm, I wonder... Slightly unrelated maybe. Can the 'zoom' slider be double-purposed as a control interface for menu options or for segmenting the custom controls into tabs of some sort or 'pages'? That is, when in shooting mode, it functions as zoom, when the menu system is engaged, it functions as a left-right slider 'wheel' of a sort? So that maybe we could have an interface similar to the shutter / iso sliders, with dual interfaces (the clunky touch screen interface or the 'slider' option)? Not sure if it works this way currently ot not, as I haven't tried using the zoom slider as a slider for the given customization option.

Just thinking that maybe different options could get their own 'page' in the menu interface that you can either swipe left/right on the screen or use the zoom slider to swipe left and right. And then if necessary each page gets a 'menu' with different options you can scroll up/down by swiping the touch screen up and down? So, maybe you swipe right to get to 'timer options', then scroll up and down to get to options like 'timer length,' 'timer repeat,' 'auto/manual repeat repeat,' 'auto repeat count' --> 'seconds between shots,' etc. Each of which you 'tap' to engage then either select an option or use the slider (either via touch screen or via zoom slider).

Might get overly complicated. But, there's only so much you can do with a small touch screen...

December 04, 2012 01:44 pm
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Michael Gmirkin

And if you can use the zoom slider or swipe to navigate between pages, then the pages should be circular, insofar as when you get to the 'last' page, you swipe one more time and come full circle back to the starting page of he menu?

December 04, 2012 01:46 pm
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Reb Spence

Nice, now all I need is the multi-picture bracketing timer and my basic routine can become automated.  I like to snap about 3-5 pictures of the same subject so I can choose the highest quality picture afterwards on my PC.  In either case, the timer ought to help eliminate the effects of my shaky hand when I depress the shutter button.

December 04, 2012 03:49 pm
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Michael Gmirkin

Do you mean "bracketing" bracketing or just "taking several pictures at a tiem with the same settings." Still waiting for true "bracketing" (progressive metering on subsequent shots, as opposed to just several pictures in succession with the same metering [ISO/shutter speed]).

Both would be nice. And I think REAL "bracketing" would be cool to get "the right shot" and also for the next jump to HDR imaging. Especially if it was refocusable HDR + perspective shift + maybe living filters? I'm pretty sure some amazing stuff could be done with all those things combined in various ways.

December 04, 2012 04:21 pm
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Reb Spence

Both would be optimal, different scenarios call for different needs

December 04, 2012 06:14 pm
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Greg Tokarski

For whatever reason even on manual controls menu they did not use the slider, but sliders on the touch screen.. maybe there's something in the hardware that makes that not an optimal option.. not sure... But as we see what they can achieve with upgrades, I think most of us realize the eventually the camera will just take pictures telepathically from one's brain, and project it in the same way - as it will as if u were there.. I sure cannot wait for that upgrade! I have had many instances in my life where I wish I could just record what I saw as I saw it.. not some archaic still image you can do nothing with.... ;)

Either way, we got yet another set of improvements.. can't really complain about that ;)

December 04, 2012 08:38 pm
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Michael Gmirkin

Well, seems I updated this morning but couldn't FIND the bloody option...?? I must've tried just about every combination of dragging and swiping and poking without success, except of course the CORRECT one.

http://support.lytro.com/entries/22528606-self-timer-overview

Apparently you have to swipe the little bar down at the bottom while it's open, left-right. I could swear I tried that but I think I just swiped the iddle of the screen left-right and it didn't do anything.

I might have gotten it right had thee been a visual cue on the bar itself to indicate it was swipable. Like little arrows at the sides of the bar <   >

Might have to move the other icons a couple pixels inward to accommodate? Dunno. But it would be handy, I'd think? And should it be a 'circular' swipe (continuous swiping returns you to the beginning), or should you have to literally swipe back the other direction? Not sure which is more intuitive...

Anyway, a visual cue might make it more intuitive?

December 06, 2012 04:46 pm
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Peter Lee

I would like to see a 15 second timer.... 10 sec is barely adequate for my application... it takes sometimes more than 10 sec to mechanically dampen out vibrations when imaging with a microscope at high magnifications....

PL

January 03, 2013 12:48 pm