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Is it possible to convert a photo taken with the lytro camera to a regular jpg?

Lisa Stein
asked this on December 21, 2011 08:47 AM

Hi,

I am wondering if it will be possible to convert a photo taken with lytro to a regular jpg to post on zenfolio, shutterfly, or the like?  I love the idea of being able to maniupulate the focal points of the photo, but I am also wondering if regular post processing (e.g. lightroom) will be possible.  I'm hoping I will be able to play with the lytro photo, adjust white balance, colors, etc.., and then export as a regular jpg to post on my favorite share sites.  Will the above use case be possible?

Thanks.

 

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g

Ditto...

December 25, 2011 12:57 AM
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William Gleason

Just found this...

http://support.lytro.com/entries/20558086-what-options-do-i-have-for-printing-my-living-pictures

it says that you can export to jpg at 1800x1800 pixels (about 3.2MP)  [1080x1080, actually --goolie]

December 27, 2011 11:38 AM
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Dean Smith

A related question is as follows.  prior to exporting to JPEG is there any more flexibility of focus adjustment beyond what we see in the demo pictures, i.e. can you do additive or variable focus at different points in the image, or is it all or none as per the demos?

January 10, 2012 04:41 PM
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adam gould
Lytro Staff
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Billy - That's 1080x1080 for the record, not 1800x1800 >;-)

Dean - Your living pictures will have more refocus points on the Desktop software, as you're actually interacting with the full light field file.  The gallery photos you're playing with are web optimized versions for sharing online.  Does this answer your question?

January 11, 2012 06:11 PM
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Dean Smith

Thanks Adam that does help.  Does the software allow you to lock in different areas of focus, i.e. far/intermediate/near, in an additive or cumulative fashion or will the other areas not chosen always defocus as they do in the demos.  Also, can you do partial/soft focus?

January 11, 2012 06:28 PM
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adam gould
Lytro Staff

Things will work just like they do on our gallery and no additional functionality will happen for launch.  

We will be releasing regular software and firmware updates, which will enable additional functionality (like all in focus) in the future.  Other then all-in-focus, we don't have any kind of roadmap of future functionality available at this time...  

January 11, 2012 06:39 PM
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Jeffrey Puritz

as of 3/3/12 there is no print or export to jpg function at least not in the desktop sw. i assume Lytro are working on this.

March 03, 2012 01:09 PM
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Ian Ellison
Lytro Staff
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Jeffrey, this is already possible.

For how to export from JPG, please see the following KB article:

http://support.lytro.com/entries/21048657-h-export-pictures-to-jpg-...

March 06, 2012 03:44 PM
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Janette Shelly

Is it possible to get a varied depth of field with Lytro? Or does the focus always need to be sharp over a small area then fall off from around that area? 

Possible to keep an area of depth that covers several layers and objects back in space?

Janette 

March 10, 2012 08:49 AM
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adam gould
Lytro Staff

Janette, it is possible technically, but this is not in the current featureset of what we support.  "All in focus" is on our roadmap to support in 2012, but not selective depth of field as yet.  It's a great feature request though; have you checked out our feature request and feedback area, if not it's the perfect place to ask:  http://support.lytro.com/forums/20612908-living-pictures

March 19, 2012 10:42 AM
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Chuck Rydlewski

Sorry, I do not have an Export JPG option on my menu.

April 06, 2012 02:15 PM
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adam gould
Lytro Staff
April 13, 2012 04:44 PM
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Judith B Jones

I am sorry, but I am missing something somewhere. I have tried to follow the article on how to convert to JPG. over and over.

I can not find the Export to JPG option on my menu. Where am I going wrong? What am I missing? Help! 

I convert most of my photos to JPG. Seldom do I use Facebook, so this will be a useful skill for me

thank you

May 12, 2012 09:38 AM
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Judith B Jones

Never mind, I found it. It is way easy. I was making it to difficult.

Thanks anyway!! My camera came  yesterday, but so far I really like it!

May 12, 2012 09:54 AM
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Greg Tokarski

It took me a while to find it too ;) I think many people overlook that you have to do it from the main screen...  It is explained pretty well in that doc, but I think if the image you guys have there was also "zoomed out", people would find it harder to "overlook" the little detail they overlook now ;)

GT

May 12, 2012 10:17 AM
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adam gould
Lytro Staff

Judith, how can we make our documentation better?  Was it not clear what "page" you must be on to get the Jpg export option?  Would having a better graphic with more context as Greg suggests help?

May 16, 2012 03:00 PM
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Chris Heilman

Is it possible to make "Export Jpeg..." a regular menu item that works from any view within the desktop software?   I'd like to be able to export from the enlarged view as well, since that is usually where I am when evaluating my pictures.

May 17, 2012 12:49 AM
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adam gould
Lytro Staff

Chris, great idea... and one we've filed an improvement request for.  It's something that should be in multiple places for sure.

May 18, 2012 11:11 AM
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Mark Shepard

At what resolution can you export JPEGs? I need high-resolution for print. How big can you make the image file? 

May 22, 2012 03:45 PM
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adam gould
Lytro Staff

Mark, the answer is at the top of this thread, but if you need high-resolution for print, Lytro is not for you at this time.  

http://support.lytro.com/entries/20552272-is-the-lytro-camera-right...

 

 

 

May 22, 2012 03:52 PM
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D T

Why are .jpg conversions limited to 1080x1080? The data is there to make a 10M pixel .jpg. If I want to use Lytro for my primary camera, 1M is not enough resolution. Is this on your roadmap? I don't want to have to carry two cameras to be able to send high resolution pictures to friends or use them on my business website.

October 10, 2012 04:49 AM
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Greg Tokarski

DT, where did you get the idea that there's enough info to generate a 10MB image? If that indeed would be true, I would totally agree, that there needs to be an option to "export high resolution image" in addition to standard export jpg and the variable focal points... This way we still could take good quality 2D pictures.... R u getting the idea from the size of the CCD? If so, realize that the CCD receives a lot of small overlapping pictures from the lens array... and not quite an image that is comparable in size to that on a standard cam, with a similar size CCD.. or at least so is my understanding of the technology.

October 10, 2012 08:22 AM
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D T

Somewhere 11M is quoted as a spec.

So what is the pixel resolution equivalent to a 2D camera? I noticed if you blow up the images on line they look grainy.

Is the pixel equivalent 1080x1080?

 

 

October 10, 2012 08:29 AM
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Greg Tokarski

Yes, I believe currently 1080 x 1080 is IT... That is why Adam, and Lytro in general talks about "not for high quality prints and imaging" in all the "Is Lytro right for you" type documents. At this point it's really not about quality from the resolution point of view, but about all the other abilities that only Lytro offers. A bit sad, but all depends on why one is interested in the technology. The grains are a bit better with new manual controls, but yes, when you try to zoom in, it will always be there, unless they got some other magic up their sleeve... I bet in the future it would be possible to use some "smoothing algorithms".. there are quite expensive software packages on the market that can do such magic rather well.. I would love to see something like that incorporated into Lytro... After all majority of the image is sort of "extrapolated" mathematically already.. why not do what our brain does and introduce pattern completion and other such cool things? :)))

October 10, 2012 08:55 AM
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adam gould
Lytro Staff

Thanks Greg!

DT, the 11M you saw are not Megapixels but Megarays, and the 1080x1080 resolution of any particular 2D slice you choose to focus on and save as .jpg will not be changing, it's a hardware limit associated with the current camera configuration.

As far as comparing Lytro's resolution with a traditional 2D camera, you really can't.

> I don't want to have to carry two cameras to be able to send high resolution pictures to friends or use them on my business website

The Lytro camera is not intended or designed to replace your DSLR or point and shoot (see "Is the Lytro camera right for me" KB). It's a showcase for a new technology (lightfield) that will revolutionize cameras as we know them today and will enable you to compose and take shots you cannot take with any traditional 2D camera; it will also challenge you to compose differently, as a good light field shot is just not possible with a traditional camera.

We know our first product is not right for everyone, but thanks for considering us!

October 10, 2012 10:07 AM
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D T

Sorry for the tangent from me here. I understand now that Lytro is not a repacement for my everyday camera.

If it were this would be a huge market opportunity. It would displace many of the SLRs out there. I guess you would need a 100M CCD to get 10M 2D equivalents.

October 10, 2012 11:39 AM
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adam gould
Lytro Staff

DT, yes, the future is very exciting for lightfield photography in general and Lytro in particular. Just remember that this is our first product, and the very first lightfield camera, ever. Think back to the 90's when digital first hit the scene... 95% of photographers at the time laughed and couldn't understand why anyone would pay that much for so little functionality But it was a start, and now digital is pervasive. You gotta start somewhere...

October 10, 2012 11:52 AM
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David Hollier-Photography

This is all cool but the big question is are Canon/Nikon/Sony/Hassel......... going to try and do a DYSON, purchase your patent/design, make you all rich men, then stick it on a shelf somewhere?  or are you going to partner with them and create a pro camera with sufficient capacity and resolution? :))))) I suspect they will have resolved to develop a camera as they don't have much choice?

October 11, 2012 02:37 AM
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Guglielmo Boogliodemus

Are there any plans to eventually make a Foveon version? That would be perfect.

October 12, 2012 01:45 PM
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Don Turriaga

I’m looking forward to receiving my Lytro camera next week.  In the meantime I was reviewing the site and the FAQ’s.  It seems that controlling the DoF is most asked and desired feature to create a flat 2d representation of the image.  While I understand that it is not the goal of Lytro, what about exporting the individual layers as tiff (16bit) or jpg files to run through a stacking program?  From what I can tell it’s not easy to export the files from front to back in a consecutive focal distance order to facilitate a stacking program.  That little enhancement alone would allow the use of 3rd party stacking software to control the DoF in 2d.

 

I can’t wait to see what you do with the 3d effects, maybe hologram prints with perspective or focus?  A 3d/touch type of electronic picture frame would be fun but in either case I can see that losing the RAW data in these situations would limit/negate those capabilities.

November 24, 2012 09:22 AM
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Ian Ellison
Lytro Staff

@Guglielmo & @Don Thanks for the feedback!  Normally I would move this feedback over to our Feedback & Feature Request Forums, but since this thread was originally on another topic, I'd like to ask you to please re-post there:

http://support.lytro.com/forums/20613036-lytro-desktop

This will allow other fans to agree and upvote your suggestions in an area that our Product Managers regularly review.

Thanks in advance!

November 28, 2012 04:38 PM